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Post by greenb on Feb 22, 2014 23:17:35 GMT -6
In the next few days, I am going to Menards and getting a feeler gauge so I can get the kerf width correct for when we start cutting out parts for the quadcopter. This is something that I thought Kevin accounted for when cutting the parts but the results from the last laser cutting prove otherwise. If anybody wants to cut out accurate parts from the laser cutter, ill leave a link below for you to read. Remember, this stuff might come in handy one day, it never hurts to learn a new skill. medesign.seas.upenn.edu/index.php/Guides/LaserCuttingFits
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Post by PatrickG on Feb 24, 2014 21:36:52 GMT -6
Well I went back to the physics lab today to meet with Rich at 1PM (the time he said he'd be there) but he never showed. However, I was able to get back on the cutter we used previously in the fabrication lab (which I'm told is much better anyway) and I had it to myself for several hours. During this time I was also able to meet and talk in-depth with some of the engineering/technology professors and they think the laser cutter is as cool as I do. I talked for a while with Kevin Lee too and he was telling me the kerf width ranges from .008" at the top (face up surface) of the material to .007" at the bottom (face down surface). I still want to measure this ourselves but I was planning on doing some testing with his values. I also made some small projects today while experimenting on and practicing with the cutter: Some small boxes/candle holders (and yes I know about the thickness error but I think it looks cooler this way) Friction fit gauge
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Post by greenb on Feb 24, 2014 21:47:46 GMT -6
that is awesome. Here is what i want to do to verify the fit. I am planning on making the file right now because you could use it and i am getting sick of working on the quadcopter frame. Inventor is fighting me so I might have to restart again www.brainstormkingston.com/measuring-laser-kerf/
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Post by PatrickG on Feb 24, 2014 23:11:40 GMT -6
Well I just sketched this up in Inkscape to help us with the kerf. Basing it off of your link the idea is we can use this template for every material we want to try and when we get a new material we cut/engrave (blue is cut, red is engrave) one of these with it. When the individual rectangles are loose inside the border you push them all to one end and measure the total gap on the other end. You take that total and divide it by 10 (10 horizontal cuts) to get the average kerf for that material. I'll try and find an upload site to make this .svg available for anyone who wants it. I'm going to go to Home Depot and buy a 8' x 4' sheet of some really nice hardwood plywood for the club. I'll have them cut the whole sheet up into 16 individual 2' x 1' (slightly less actually) pieces that'll fill the cutter. I'll try this template out as soon as I can with the plywood. Screenshot of the .svg in Inkscape
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Post by greenb on Feb 24, 2014 23:41:20 GMT -6
I have no idea how you did the words like that so ill just give you my pdf TEST-2.pdf (53.32 KB) I wanted to have a design that could be cut out for any material and would not require tools to use. This would be good for members who are new to the laser cutter.
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Post by PatrickG on Feb 25, 2014 1:07:12 GMT -6
I have no idea how you did the words like that so ill just give you my pdf I wanted to have a design that could be cut out for any material and would not require tools to use. This would be good for members who are new to the laser cutter. Good thinking, we should do both so we can really find a good average. I'm starting to wonder if we should have a laser cutting sub-Forum or at least a sub-Forum for all the machines together where we can collect our work and possibly get a guide going to get people working on their own projects. For the words in Inkscape: create your text and select it, then under Object -> Fill and Stroke -> set Fill to No Fill, Stroke paint to Flat Color with your color, and Stroke style width to 0.001 inch. Also is it possible to take a 2D sketch in Autodesk Inventor (that perhaps you're using to create 3D shapes with) and export it into a .svg format? I wanted to try creating 3D objects with multiple layers from the laser cutter (like pic below) so I was thinking of making a bunch of 2D sketches and extruding them 1/4" to see what the finished product would look like. You could probably make this with 3 layers on the cutter, 2 for the front/back and the third for the gears in the middle.
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Post by greenb on Feb 25, 2014 8:29:28 GMT -6
that thing is sick, we got to make it. Imagine what we could make if we could use the 3d printer.
ill try using inkscape later, thanks for telling me how to use it
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Post by PatrickG on Feb 25, 2014 17:21:05 GMT -6
Been practicing in Autodesk Inventor and Inkscape and made both of the pics below. That thing is actually a business card and I figured it was as good as anything to start learning Inventor with. I also need to find a way to generate random polygons in Inkscape (well with a limit on # of sides and size), doing them by hand has to be one of the worst things in the world. I really liked how the pattern came out in the little box above so I'm trying to expand it to a larger cube. Over a billion hours learning Inventor - this is the top layer showing the cuts/engravings to be made (I'm guessing on all the dimensions) Random polygons by hand:
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Post by greenb on Feb 25, 2014 18:00:40 GMT -6
It looks good enough for me. If you want to try something fun, fillet those corners.
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Post by PatrickG on Feb 26, 2014 22:14:03 GMT -6
Been trying to get the maximum amount of time I possibly can on the laser cutter all this week so I can have some stuff to show off on Friday. First of all I stopped at Home Depot and got a 1/4" x 4' x 8' sheet of some really nice oak plywood for everyone in the club. This stuff looks awesome, feels awesome (both sides come sanded), and even smells awesome so I had the guy cut it down into 16 individual 1' x 2' chunks to fit in the laser cutter. Unfortunately I'm pretty sure I got the new guy and while the width is pretty uniform, the length on some of the pieces can vary up to about an inch past 2' and won't fit in the cutter. I've been thinking I might go back and have them fix it, they better do it for free - they're the ones who fck'd it up. I also got some wood glue and some artist paintbrushes in case any of our designs aren't quite snug enough for a friction fit. In other news I went ahead and cut out the kerf measurement template from my previous post on the new oak plywood. It was a little larger than I meant to have it but it looks like it'll work very well. Any chance you're going to be on campus with that feeler gauge set? I'm a little nervous about starting cutting full time before we figure this out. I cut a couple test pieces for a torus design of mine and they were way off by about .050" so I definitely feel like we should get this sorted out. Oak plywood for the club: Kerf template turned out very well but large Torus design and test pieces:
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Post by PatrickG on Feb 26, 2014 22:29:58 GMT -6
Forgot a couple things - First, we're working with STEM Dean Cary Komoto on getting some space on campus for all of our projects and materials, hopefully in the form of our own room. I wouldn't mind working out of the physics labs but they're not always open.
Second, I also forgot to say the new plywood averages a thickness of .193 based on approx. 20 different measurements across different pieces. The two extremes I saw were .190 and .196 so it's rather uniform too. Still need to determine the kerf but I figure I'd throw that out there before I forgot.
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Post by greenb on Feb 26, 2014 23:20:54 GMT -6
If you need precision instruments, you can borrow my feeler gauge and caliper. I would avoid the physic's lab because we are getting a great deal of friction with the lab assistants this is worth a read as well likemagicappears.com/2014/02/07/laser-cutter-tips/
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